February 6, 2025 • 17 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Power.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Number two of the program gets underway just after five o'clock.
Thank you for spending your afternoon with us. Coming up,
we'll talk about an NCAA potential rule change in football,
super Bowl fifty nine's coming up, some more golf things
to get to and pitchers and catchers report next week
to Major League Baseball training camps.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Earlier this week, UTSA.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
And doctor Lisa compos put out a lengthy letter to
talk about the upcoming things that are going to change
and kind of a plan for UTSA going forward, for
the fiscal things with the athletic program and the funding
of NIL and revenue sharing and those things. Doctor Compos
joins us this afternoon. Lisa, good afternoon, Thank you for

(00:42):
joining us. How is your day going so far? I'm
sure it's pretty busy like all the others.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Well, thanks for having me. Of course, every day is busy.
But you thought that letter was lengthy.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
A little bit.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
It took me about four minutes to read it. Yeah,
but it was good. It was good detail, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
But the main thing is we knew we knew it
was a lengthy letter, but thought that the content of
it was. You know, we're living this every day the
House Settlement, the rev Share. We're living it every day,
and I've had so many conversations with our constituents and
it's it's clear there needs to be some some education.

(01:20):
So we thought that that letter was the best way
that for those who had a little bit of time
on their hands and who really wanted to understand it
could read that five page letter. So we appreciate everyone
who took the time to read. All of those letters are.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Awesome on that level.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Well, tell us about the House settlement. What does that mean?
April seventh, I guess is the day coming up. What
happens potentially on that date if everything goes like everyone
thinks it will.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah, like I said in the letter, you know, it
is a bit complex and it's ever changing. And you know,
January thirty first was a milestone where all of the class,
the class and the settlement or in this lawsuit, the
opportunity to opt in or opt out, and then anyone
who objected to the to the settlement could give their
objections by July or by January thirty first. So that

(02:09):
day has coming done. Now the judge has to go
through all those objections. She needs to, you know, evaluate
the number of folks who opted in as opposed to
those who opted out. And then you know, decide is
this a fair settlement? You know, in a class action lawsuit,
that's what the judge is looking at, is the fairness
of this. And so once she her final decision is

(02:33):
scheduled for April seventh. Again, I keep reminding people that
will be here in sand I mean the court cases
in California at April seventh, We'll be hosting the National
Men's Championship Basketball Championship, So all media will be here
in San Antonio for that historic day if if it
all happens on that day.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
So, if this goes through and UTSA will be part
of this revenue share, how does that change the collectives?
Bob Wills and April and Sierra and Martin Sealinas have
the have spearheaded the uts A collectives? Do they still
exist in some way some different way if the school
takes over the the nil through the revenue share.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah, So just to back up a little bit, you know,
for folks to understand that the House settlement is addressing
rev share and rev share is really three components. It's nil,
it's the ability to offer you know, they've done a
roster limit now for all sports, and ability to offer
new scholarships up to that roster limit, and then it's

(03:35):
the nil and then the oh my gosh, I just
lost my train of thought that the scholarships the nil
and then Alston and Alston's been around for a long time,
so folks are probably familiar with that, but those are
really the three components of the rev share. So nil
if you look, if you take that one separate, what
it's giving institutions the ability to do is pay student

(03:58):
athletes directly or they're nil. It doesn't mean that the
institution is going to you know, completely fund the maximum
twenty million. You know, I think I am talking with
all of our you know, colleagues that we're all going
to be doing the same thing that the collectives were doing,
is that we're going to continue to generate revenue and

(04:21):
be able to share in that revenue. So in terms
of the collective, you know, that's going to be really
up to each collective Nationally. We've heard, you know, maybe
it might be fifty to fifty, that fifty percent of
the collective will shut down and allow you know, I
think they're anticipating that maybe they won't be for not
for profit status anymore. And then other collectives because the

(04:42):
collective that doesn't count towards the max. You know, the
house settlement gave a you can generate or you can
share about twenty million dollars. I don't think any g
Fincle may be doing that, but you can share it
to twenty million dollars, but the the collective nile doesn't

(05:02):
count towards that. So they're right schools that still maintain
the collective.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
I know Jeff talked earlier a year or so ago,
six months ago that the UTSA and the G five
Schools a group of five schools that UTSA is a
part of. They're not going to get to twenty million,
but if they could get to three or four somewhere
in that neighborhood, they could be competitive. Because if you
look at the UTSA student athletes, for example, we're not
talking about the four million dollar athletes that you see

(05:29):
that maybe some other schools are throwing out there. It's
it's to pay phone bills, it's to pay a car payment,
it's to be able to pay their necessities throughout the
year school. They just want to be included and So
is that realistic for UTSA?

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Is that something that you have as a goal?

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, you know, we're working with the American Athletic Conference
right now, and you know all of us are in
the same situation going through what is that key number?
And you know, you've seen very few schools who are
talking about how they're what they're going to invest in
unless it's up to the potential twenty million. So because

(06:07):
we're all just going through that right now and trying
to really analyze and figure out what is going to
be available and also what is the market out there
for all of this?

Speaker 2 (06:19):
All right, One thing that I saw in that letter,
and I think this is very important. We're going past
the fifty year mark of when Title nine was first
introduced in the early nineteen seventies. And while it seems
like football and to a certain extent, basketball, both on
the men's and now women's side, is driving the NIL bus,
we have to be cognizant of all the other sports
as well, plus all the other sports that women participate in.

(06:41):
So how do you balance what football players get to
say to women's basketball players softball players? How does Title
nine work into what you guys are trying to accomplish.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
That's a great question. You know, I think people are
going to think I'm a broken record to say about
the uncertainties right now. Right that before more than by
an administration trans or before the transition of Biden administration,
you know, they had put out a document talking about
how titlemind was going to be affected by this, and

(07:13):
then the new administration has come in and maybe is
reversing that. So it's fluid every day. What we know
is that there's a lot of attorneys out there giving
council about how this could be compliant with Title nine,
whether it's giving you know, past settlement, using those percentages
with the past settlement damages, using what what revenue you know,

(07:35):
of those eight categories, what revenues, what sports are generating
revenue and doing it a percentage by that. So there's
a lot of different interpretations out there and nothing nothing
consistent right now, you're I.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Think one of the things that UTSA and you in particular,
Doctor Amy, have to be very proud of is the
growth of the athletic budget at UTSA high twenties when
you got here in two thousands seventeen, close to fifty
million now and growing. Talk about the progress that you've
been able to make in being able to fund football
at the level that it has in the other sports

(08:09):
as well.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Absolutely, you know, foremost a huge thank you to doctor
Amy and to Veronica Salzar and to the rest of
the campus leadership who have found ways to continue to
support us. You know, many of many schools in the
American Athletic Conference are subsidized by their institutions, and we've
grown that that budget line really you know, to a

(08:36):
record level, right and that's again thanks to doctor Amy
and the leadership here. But we've also really gone out
and fundraised. We've generated revenue obviously through our American Athletic
Conference membership, we've generated through NC double A dollars. So
we are looking at every revenue stream. We're looking at

(08:57):
monetization of every possible you know, opportunity. But it's been
at the end of the day, San Antonio wants a
jams Ship caliber program rate in football, in basketball. I
mean you see that in women's basketball performance and the
crowds that we're bringing and they've come together. You know,
I can't leave out the support we've gotten from the

(09:18):
city of San Antonio, from Bear County for our facilities.
I mean, people have come together to support this institution,
to support this athletics program. You know, it's not just
one avenue. It's been a lot of people coming together
to help us grow this program.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
One of the things we'll have in the Alamodome next
year is the finishing out of the suites in the
South End zone and around that area. You'll have more
opportunities for fans to watch football games in the comfort
of a suite.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Absolutely, and what fun are those suites, you know, all
the companies we've we've sold out in the last couple
of years. The companies love being there. It's a way
to entertain your clients, to entertain your employees, you know,
great opportunity to just come in and break bread with
folks and to watch a really great football team. Right
and to your point, we have multiple suites new suites available.

(10:10):
I know Cal from our department is going to be
having an open house tomorrow and Saturday at the Almodome
showing off those suites. There's a list of people who
want to come check it out and we being able
to sell those as well.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Final four you talked about that earlier. We'll be hosting
that in a few weeks. That's always fun. San Antonio
knows how to put on a party, and UTSA will
certainly be a big part of that.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Absolutely. You know, what a special event for San Antonio,
for the universities that are helping sponsor that. For say, look,
we're really proud of what we do here in San Antonio,
putting out on that championship and people love coming here.
I mean for a multitude of reasons, but it's just
a great atmosphere. They love the city, they love the walkability.

(10:56):
So to host that and then our future hosting opportunity,
so we're really excited to be doing that. A lot
of work, a lot of thanks to this community who
are volunteering, who are helping us put on a good show,
but really really special, really exciting.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
How can current or soon to be season ticket holders, fans,
people that go to UTSA games, the public, the city.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
What's next?

Speaker 2 (11:20):
How can people help UTSA continue to grow its budgets?
It's in il collectives, it's revenue share.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
What's the message to.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
The fan, the football fan, the sports fan of San
Antonio to support the programs?

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, you know, we've always said it, what's good for
San Antonio it's good for UTSA and vice versa. And
we know that this is a sports city. We know
that they support UTSA, the student athletes, So there's a
way to support. There's so many different ways to support.
Whether you want to support scholarship and supporting first gen students,

(11:55):
supporting students who would not have had access to higher
education had it not been for their scholarship. If you
want to support facilities, in championship facilities, you can spore
that way. If you want to support you know, the
rev Share is really going to help us be competitive
and help us win championship. So if you want to
help support again a championship caliber program, help and rev Share,

(12:18):
whether again that's providing new scholarships, providing nil opportunities, you know,
being a sponsor. There is just so a variety of
ways that anyone in the city, whether it's one hundred
dollars or whether it's five million dollars, there's something that
everyone here can do. And I always say, you know,
I know it's easier said than done, but why not

(12:39):
find a thousand people in this city to give a
thousand dollars and just flick at what.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
That would do? Absolutely, Lisa, thanks so much for your
time today. I know you're going to be busy getting
all the stuff done between now and even going all
the way through the summer till that first football game
at Texas A and M. So I'll look forward to
all of that and more new is coming as we
get closer to the final four and to the settlement,

(13:04):
the house settlement coming up in April as well.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Thanks so much, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Take care all right.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
That's doctor Lisa compos UTSA athletic director talking about the
things going on with the Roadrunners as they try to
a grow those budgets and the players now are in
a situation where they're going to get paid a little bit,
and it's it's not the four million dollars that you're
seeing the Ohio state wide receiver getting if he wants
to go on the open market. The athletes at UTSA

(13:32):
are kind of not in that that rental property area,
so we'll see if they how they are able to
share that revenue and to make sure that they have
competitive teams.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
That's why she gets paid the big bucks.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Because a lot of that stuff that she was saying,
I was just like, I don't understand, idiot, Well, The
truth of the matter is is that you understand it
today and tomorrow it's going to change. Yeah, and then
the day after that it may change again. And it's
like Texas may say, Okay, we're going to be at
twenty five million or twenty seven million or twenty two million,
and the SEC is going to agree that the schools

(14:06):
can do that. But then the collectives can come in
and they can do what Jeff Davis is doing with
Quinn yours, and that's on top of what the school
can get. I do think that one of the things
that needs to be discussed, and I don't know how
you police it, but I think that the schools that
each conference needs to say this is the max that
the school can give you, and then this is the

(14:28):
max that any one particular athlete on your campus can get,
or your innile collective can only have this much money
in it. But then you take a look at something
like SMU when SMU has said, well, when the ACC
said if we let you in, do we have to
give you any TV money? And they said no, And
thirty minutes later they had one hundred million dollars in
the bank, just because their donors are crazy about their

(14:49):
team and want to support it like a lot of
other people.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Want to support their teams.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
So it's unfair when you look at if we're going
to play a competitive game, the landscape has to be competitive.
And I don't think it's mostly as much NIL as
I think it's in l I the national letters of intent,
and I think when you sign a letter of intent
to get a football, basketball, baseball, whatever scholarship at a school,

(15:17):
there should be something that bounds you to that for
a certain amount of time, unless your coach quits, and
injury could be something that would be a way to
get out of it. Your coach leaves would be a
way to get out of it, or if you're simply
just riding the bench and you know, I thought it
was good enough to play at this school, and both
you and your coach know you're not. There was a

(15:38):
situation a few years ago where UTSA had a wide
receiver I believe his name was Drace Briggs, and when
Jeff recruited him, everybody thought he was going to be
the next you know, JT. Clark, and he just never
developed into that player. He was okay, but there was
just too many other wide receivers on the team. There
were in the way of him playing, and he went

(15:59):
into coaches office and said, where can I go where
I can play? I only got a few years left.
I know I'm not going to the NFL. I want
to get a degree, I want to go get a job,
but I want to play a few more football games.
And Jeff actually called the Dana Demil, the coach at
you tip, and said, hey, I got a guy that
can help you out. You're a thin at wide receiver.
This guy can play a play for you. So coaches

(16:19):
aren't going to just stash you on the roster so
they don't have to play against you, especially if you're
going someplace it's down a level. But I think there
should be some exceptions. But basically, if you rush for
two hundred yards today, I don't want you Leaven to
go to the competition tomorrow because they can pay you
twenty bucks more than I can pay you, or two
million bucks more than I can pay you. That's where

(16:41):
the fight isn't fair. And if you look at the
pro leagues, everybody's playing with the same money structure, and
college has become somewhat of a pro league, and financially
those structures have to have to be in line with
everyone else, all right. NCAA's got some potential rule changes,
super Bowl fifty nine is come up, and more as

(17:01):
we get further along in the show.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Today it's five eighteen on the ticket.

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